I been saying this for years, but really the dating apps are just a microcosm of the pain and misery of the whole heteroid courtship routine. The market asymmetries turn one of the most fundamental basic fundamentals of being a living being into a neverending humiliation ritual for all parties. And yet it can't be any other way or evolution breaks down. Great fucking universe, omnipotent benevolent god.
When I was a little baby child, before I was so fruity, I dreaded it nonstop. Thank god I found the secret opt out.
This is a bleak take. Never-ending humiliation ritual? In what way? Dating can be fun and satisfying if you have a lot of options, build a thick skin against rejection, and learn to filter the jerks and time wasters.
10/10 post. As a bi man I read your post like it was gospel. This was just exactly like my experiences: the monocultural communist gay spaces, the apps as a way to facilitate finding gay/sexually quirky people, the tagging, the "too clean to be straight", damn you read my whole life lmao
> (Spoiler: your problem is that you are not being nearly off-putting enough.)
I have a very similar view. Don't be slightly likeable by all. Make 5% of people consider you insanely hot and 95% of people consider you an idiot. Polarize.
My dating app pic is me in textbook goth cowboy Dom clothes, holding the book The Heart of Dominance.
Seth Godin says the same about marketing a company: focus on your hardcore fans instead of trying to get lukewarm responses from everyone. Lukewarm responses aren’t worth anything. Don’t hide your polarizing characteristics such as being a huge nerd
This definitely matches my experience. As a trans lesbian, I was able to arrange a hookup within ~4 hours of downloading Lex, an app which is not especially hookup aligned.
This is a substantial improvement over my experience as a straight(ish) man, in which years of social conditioning and gender asymmetries I was not yet woke enough to understand permanently barred me from pussy of any kind.
i think every guy having trouble getting laid should either become gay or trans. either way it is so much better. Redpill ideology exists because straight dating is structured to be a nightmare
Openly bisexual men tend to attract different types of women. Your reach is narrower (normies will reject you because of biphobia), but the smaller pool who does like you are hornier and less concerned with hetero dating norms.
Why? Bisexual men tend to attract queerer women and less conformist women, the kind of women who value a man’s bisexuality (as opposed to fear it). A lot of women you perceive as “lesbian” - such a butch presenting women - are actually bisexual and will date you.
So, if you become bisexual (a form of gay), you can opt out of trad hetero dating and still date women!
honestly, at that point just curse God for your fate. cismale heterosexuality is evidence against a benevolent, all-loving God and for a cruel, capricious God that has abandoned 40% of his creations to indescribable horror
You just have a skill issue. It's okay. I will help you. I am furiously wordsmithing the followup post as we speak. Come with me; get into my pouch; I'll take you away from this place
tbqf, I don't know why I'm so blackpilled, because I am the only person I've ever met who has actually had a positive experience on dating apps and thus never been single for more than a few weeks.
arguably though this gives me insight that the world is highly non-optimal for people who are not insane freaks like me
arguably, this is more of an example of REAL traditionalism in the guenon sense. we all curve around in some way to find the inherent truth of the universe
I don’t know why they don’t kill off all the vowels and go right to ticker symbols. GRNDR. TNDR. MTCH. BMBL. (PRSNLS or LNLYHRTS exceed the character limit but are no longer relevant anyway.)
That hasn't really been my experience tbqh, I think being an extremely un-stereotypical category member lets me differentiate into a niche very easily and is sort of what I'm getting at with the "be more off-putting" advice
I married the first girl I messaged on Hinge and had 2 children with her. We are both super nerdy and telegraphed that on our profiles. The algorithm worked
Hang this post up in the Louvre.
I been saying this for years, but really the dating apps are just a microcosm of the pain and misery of the whole heteroid courtship routine. The market asymmetries turn one of the most fundamental basic fundamentals of being a living being into a neverending humiliation ritual for all parties. And yet it can't be any other way or evolution breaks down. Great fucking universe, omnipotent benevolent god.
When I was a little baby child, before I was so fruity, I dreaded it nonstop. Thank god I found the secret opt out.
This is a bleak take. Never-ending humiliation ritual? In what way? Dating can be fun and satisfying if you have a lot of options, build a thick skin against rejection, and learn to filter the jerks and time wasters.
>Never-ending humiliation ritual? In what way?
I'd say, probably in this way:
>[...] if you [don't] have a lot of options, [... do experience] rejection, and [meet ...] jerks
As a straight guy who doesn’t date or use dating apps idk how i stumbled into this but im sure i learned something
10/10 post. As a bi man I read your post like it was gospel. This was just exactly like my experiences: the monocultural communist gay spaces, the apps as a way to facilitate finding gay/sexually quirky people, the tagging, the "too clean to be straight", damn you read my whole life lmao
> (Spoiler: your problem is that you are not being nearly off-putting enough.)
I have a very similar view. Don't be slightly likeable by all. Make 5% of people consider you insanely hot and 95% of people consider you an idiot. Polarize.
My dating app pic is me in textbook goth cowboy Dom clothes, holding the book The Heart of Dominance.
This is just good marketing. Find the people who want you, don't try to change minds.
Bingo. Exclusivity, especially that created by marketing, is an attractant that eliminates undesirables.
Seth Godin says the same about marketing a company: focus on your hardcore fans instead of trying to get lukewarm responses from everyone. Lukewarm responses aren’t worth anything. Don’t hide your polarizing characteristics such as being a huge nerd
This the kind of stuff that makes women write long winded think pieces about how dating sucks.
Banger
‘gay technology misappropriated by heterosexuals’ is an insane sentence and unfortunately correct
This definitely matches my experience. As a trans lesbian, I was able to arrange a hookup within ~4 hours of downloading Lex, an app which is not especially hookup aligned.
This is a substantial improvement over my experience as a straight(ish) man, in which years of social conditioning and gender asymmetries I was not yet woke enough to understand permanently barred me from pussy of any kind.
Horseshoe theory of woke and redpill
i think every guy having trouble getting laid should either become gay or trans. either way it is so much better. Redpill ideology exists because straight dating is structured to be a nightmare
I like being a man and I like women. How do you propose I 'become gay or trans.'
Obviously you should become a trans man
Hear me out:
Openly bisexual men tend to attract different types of women. Your reach is narrower (normies will reject you because of biphobia), but the smaller pool who does like you are hornier and less concerned with hetero dating norms.
Why? Bisexual men tend to attract queerer women and less conformist women, the kind of women who value a man’s bisexuality (as opposed to fear it). A lot of women you perceive as “lesbian” - such a butch presenting women - are actually bisexual and will date you.
So, if you become bisexual (a form of gay), you can opt out of trad hetero dating and still date women!
/s
honestly, at that point just curse God for your fate. cismale heterosexuality is evidence against a benevolent, all-loving God and for a cruel, capricious God that has abandoned 40% of his creations to indescribable horror
You just have a skill issue. It's okay. I will help you. I am furiously wordsmithing the followup post as we speak. Come with me; get into my pouch; I'll take you away from this place
tbqf, I don't know why I'm so blackpilled, because I am the only person I've ever met who has actually had a positive experience on dating apps and thus never been single for more than a few weeks.
arguably though this gives me insight that the world is highly non-optimal for people who are not insane freaks like me
Oh well, play the cards that I'm given
arguably, this is more of an example of REAL traditionalism in the guenon sense. we all curve around in some way to find the inherent truth of the universe
"permanently barred from pussy of any kind" I'm crine
Yep, you hit the nail on the head. Wasn't Tinder even named after Grindr, obliquely?
I don’t know why they don’t kill off all the vowels and go right to ticker symbols. GRNDR. TNDR. MTCH. BMBL. (PRSNLS or LNLYHRTS exceed the character limit but are no longer relevant anyway.)
Branding is an art, not a science, and I won't pretend to understand.
And when I read “branding” my first thought is still “livestock!”
I'm not a country boy, so it's not my first thought, but I don't disagree!
"Let us all these women culturally "
I think you have a typo: all should be call?
Unfortunately seems to me that all the queer women on apps are also communists. Libertarian pussy still very hard to find.
Or maybe it has something to do with how you refer to women by their genetalia
Pussy has nothing to do with women and vice versa https://viverricious.substack.com/p/how-many-genders-are-there
I think ur perfect woman is not one at all
I expected to resent this article, but found myself agreeing with the analysis in the last third.
Once the fire of marginal asymmetry creeps into the oil well of gender stereotyping, you get an explosion so big, it razes the *offline* culture.
The people who suffer the greatest loss are those who least fit the stereotypes.
That hasn't really been my experience tbqh, I think being an extremely un-stereotypical category member lets me differentiate into a niche very easily and is sort of what I'm getting at with the "be more off-putting" advice
This is funny, you’ll pop off tbh keep going
That image.. XD . Maybe we all need to be hanging out at gay and lesbian spaces to meet straight partners?
honestly? the more I think about this the better an idea it seems to be
Can you imagine the day someone be like, hey what’s your Substack (instead of IG). Let’s make Substack the dating app but with matchmakers
I married the first girl I messaged on Hinge and had 2 children with her. We are both super nerdy and telegraphed that on our profiles. The algorithm worked